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- Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
- Message-ID: <1181@altheim.win-uk.net>
- References: <4h2ojc$krq@gail.ripco.com>
- Reply-To: broldham@altheim.win-uk.net (Brian R. Oldham)
- From: broldham@altheim.win-uk.net (Brian R. Oldham)
- Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 20:18:06 GMT
- Subject: Re: Checking For Keyboard
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- In article <4h2ojc$krq@gail.ripco.com>, Martin Ambuhl (mambuhl@ripco.com) writes:
- >broldham@altheim.win-uk.net (Brian R. Oldham) in
- ><1176@altheim.win-uk.net> demonstrated that he is completely clueless
- >(clewless?) by writing:
-
- When I wrote this (below) criticism I fully expected it to be
- controversial. In the event the response has been disappointingly
- underwhelming. Just one small insult from Martin and nothing at all
- (yet) from Kazimir. However, I think the subject is important enough to
- be pursued - even at the risk of being off-topic. Martin raises a few
- points that I think deserve defending.
-
- >
- >>In article <4gqm3pINNkbu@keats.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca>, Kazimir Kylheku (c2a192@ugrad.
- >>s.ubc.ca) writes:
- >[snip]
- >>>This question comes up not fewer than 10 times a week in this newsgroup, yet i
- >>>has nothing to do with the C language. It is more than adequatly covered in th
- >>>FAQ, as you would know if you had read it.
- >
- >>If you had not been so preoccupied with your annoyance at aLEX's
- >>greeting you might have answered his query - or ignored it....
- >
- >He answered the question as is appropriate for c.l.c: `It is more than
- >adequately covered in the FAQ.' Anyone who does not recognize this as
- >the correct answer should go back and read the newusers info his ISP
- >should have provided. If your ISP did not provide this info, you should
- >complain to them, not to us.
-
- I will read this FAQ, when I can find it. It must be some important
- document judging by the awe and reverence in which you guys seem to
- hold it. Etched in granite is it? As I say, I will read it, but I
- don't expect it to contradict anything I have already learned about C,
- or in FAQs from other newsgroups. If it does I may have questions.
-
- >>.... A simple
- >>brief mention of kbhit() or equivalent, or a call to whatever interrupt
- >>pauses the keyboard would have been helpful,...
- >
- >In other words, a simple mention of every possible non-C answer should
- >have been the answer in comp.lang.c. Get real.
- >
-
- I'm sure you know that there are jobs you can do in C that cannot be
- done in some other languages e.g., cobol, so if someone asks how to do
- something specific, like check keyboard for byte waiting, then he is
- entitled to expect the information he seeks and not to be told his
- question is off-topic. As far as the newbie is concerned, if a job can be
- done using C then the question is relevant to c.l.c. With your experience
- you know the distinction and, believe it or not so do I, but I totally
- disagree with your self imposed rule that newcomers to C may not ask such
- questions. If there is anything in your FAQ to support such a rule then
- I suspect in some cases over-zealous interpretation.
-
- >>... but you may be assured,
- >>none of us appreciate supercilious resposes such as this. Are you going
- >>to post this crap *every* time a newbie asks a question?
- >
- >Your response is the inappropriate one.
-
- Your obvious embarrassment indicates that it was entirely appropriate.
- >
- >The right answer to a newbie who asks a question answered in the FAQ is
- >to encourage him to look there. Such a question shows a complete
- >disregard for USENET/NEWSNET practices and is the rude component of the
- >exchange.
- >
- >The right answer to a newbie who asks a question inappropriate to the
- >newsgroup is to ignore it or to let him know that this is not the place
- >to ask. Such a question shows a complete disregard for USENET/NEWSNET
- >practices and is the rude component of the exchange.
- >
-
- Rubbish! If you want to talk about Usenet practices then just compare
- this group (c.l.c) with others. I haven't been in this group very long
- - just a few days - but already I have seen a difference; c.l.c is more
- like a classroom with dialog between teachers and pupils than a debating
- forum where all members have equality. It seems to me that it is you
- guys who have forgotten the 'raison d'etre' for Usenet.
-
- >People who insist on breaking down the boundaries between newsgroups or
- >who can't be bothered reading the FAQ are extremely impolite. Don't
- >encourage them.
-
- Jeez! How picky can you get? Asking how to check the keyboard buffer
- (using C even) is not like he had asked how to grow potatoes.
-
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- Brian Oldham
- Hucknall UK
- !...Gesundbrunnen
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